Dave Krieg. Krieg led a 90-yard touchdown drive to bring the Chiefs within 7 points, but the Buffalo Bills scored 10 unanswered points in the fourth quarter to qualify for their fourth straight Super Bowl appearance. WebHad some really good moments with Krieg.But he gets my vote for the All time NFL Quarterbacks with the most Balls slipped out of his hands( i swear he must have some Once he became a starter, he was never not above average, usually well above average, except in a year where he couldn't get to 200 attempts due to injury. In reply to Kreig- Fantasy football winner! Completed only 1 of 12 passes The Chiefs of that era were coached by the great Marty Schottenheimer, managed by the great Carl Petersen, and addicted to creaky quarterbacks. Jeff Hostetler signed with the Raiders at the same time Mitchell signed with the Lions, and he kind of worked out okay (didn't light the world on fire stats-wise, but did make a Pro Bowl and won a lot of games as a starter). He went 1-of-3 for 10 yards while being sacked twice. Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. I looked it up, in 1993 after 7-2 Miami lost Marino for the season and Scott Mitchell went down, they signed DeBerg, then 39, off-the-street and put him as their starter. In his second season as a starter, less than a year after he tore his ACL, Joe Burrow threw 34 touchdowns, won three playoff games and took the Bengals to their first Super Bowl in over three decades. [13], Returning to the bench at the outset of the 1983 campaign, Krieg remained there until Zorn's performance faltered in midseason. Krieg would feel his absence, throwing more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (15) in 1990. and losers (oh no, Lions) of the 2023 NFL Draft, Ranking all 32 current NHL away jerseys, from worst to best, The Brewers' Willy Adames got ejected after a blatantly spiteful sequence from umpire Adam Beck, Will Levis' sad night sitting in the NFL Draft green room in 8 photos and videos, A fired-up Steph Curry told the Kings to 'light the beam' as the Warriors ended Sacramento's season, Will Levis's Pro Day quote on not wanting to be in NFL Draft green room if he wasn't a first-round pick was sadly prescient, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. (Both teams finished 5th in their respective AFC divisions in 1980, so they played each other twice in 1981.) Yep. Scott Mitchell was the poster boy for falling in love with small sample sizes. Thanks as always for the great write-up! "He was doing a great job moving the team up and down the field. The Seahawks went 12-4 and avenged themselves against the Raiders in the playoffs but got hammered by Marino's Dolphins in the divisional round. His final completion was to Mike Archie, done in the final quarter. He was quite possibly the greatest "trick-or-treat" QB in NFL history. He also died in 2018. "With a three-day growth of beard and hair that hung almost to his collar, [Krieg] hardly looked like the hero type," wrote columnist Bob Smizik, bringing some heavy get-off-my-lawn energy to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. I moved to the Seattle area in 1983-84 and vividly remember the Zorn vs. Krieg debates. Jones was, in fact, the player who injured Mitchell. However, Krieg's pedestrian performance on the road in the playoffs contributed to the Seahawks' swift elimination at the hands of the top-seeded Cincinnati Bengals. Seattle General Manager Tom Flores decided to retain Stouffer and McGwire, and to let Krieg become a free agent. He appeared in two other games, going 3-of-3 for 57 yards in relief during a 44-14 blowout of Cincinnati and going 1-of-2 for 3 yards in a loss to the Jets. After Mitchell's poor half season in '94., everyone was ready to jump off the bandwagon. Together, Montana and Krieg led the Chiefs to an 115 record and an AFC West Championship. He backed up Montana in San Francisco, Elway in Denver, Young in Tampa, and Marino in Miami. It became a Ryan Fitzpatrick/Harvard type deal, and it framed a perception of Krieg as the ultimate underdog. In reply to I remember when 44 year old by vrao81. In that start, he managed to throw two passes -- one incompletion and one interception -- before being sacked for a safety, and on that sack he broke his collarbone and was out for the year. In the year's first game, a knee injury sidelined the Seahawks' star running back Curt Warner for the rest of the season, forcing Coach Knox to discard his run-oriented "Ground Chuck" offense and adopt a new, more pass-intensive philosophy "Air Knox." I may do it next offseason! Krieg was becoming a bit of a star; he was, after all, only the 10th quarterback to throw for 32 or more touchdowns at that point. 22 Nov 2022 22:39:58 [43], He was inducted into the Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor in 2004.[17]. good grief How can you forget a dude who had 108 fumbles and 148 interceptions in 119 starts for this team? (I'm sure it was interesting if/when Lyle Alzado sacked Krieg; it was one alumnus of a defunct college (Yankton College in Alzado's case) sacking another alumnus of a defunct college. Knox added that Gilbert would remain the starter for the rest of the season. Krieg finished fifth in DVOA behind Boomer Esiason, Warren Moon, Marino, and Jim Everett. Little (or widely) known fact: He has the fourth-smallest hands among current starters. "Ground Chuck" took flight under Dave Krieg. "We went out for pre-game warm-ups and I didn't know if it would be Sam Adkins or myself. We're talking about this in-house. Romo, like Krieg, ran torrid-and-tepid, endured playoff pratfalls, led the league in interceptions once but produced lots of memorable highlights, threw to some all-time greats but played for some coaches with complicated legacies, and spent an awful lot of his career mired around .500 despite some impressive stats. WebDave Krieg recovers the botched snap, rolls out, and throws for a touchdown on 4th and Goal. Krieg has now been surpassed by both Brett Favre and Warren Moon for career fumbles. DeBerg went 40 of 58 for 539 yards the next two games to beat New England and Dallas, the eventual SB winner, in the Leon Lett game. [24] Despite having an outstanding defense in 1992, their overall record of 214 (.125) remains the worst in franchise history. "He picks out secondary and tertiary receivers. Terms apply, see operator site for Terms and Conditions. See Photos. Web8 1/2 hand Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 3, 2022. Steve DeBerg, a career journeyman mentor who arrived in Kansas City at age 33, had been the Chiefs starter for four seasons, leading the team to the playoffs twice. Despite going undrafted in the 1980 NFL Draft, he has consistently demonstrated remarkable talent as a quarterback throughout his career. Ray Didinger called Krieg the "surprise of the year" in a syndicated awards column. Dave Krieg. ), 2) There's a very thin difference in time between sports fans who remember Jack Patera, Seahawks head coach better (and think of Ken as Jack's brother)or remember Ken Patera, Olympic and (and more notably) pro wrestler better (and think of Jack as Ken's brother). Come to find out Jack Patera didn't tell me all week because he thought I'd get too dang nervous. -The link to the Jets game is the wrong link. Might wnat 5o do fiction instead. Krieg's leadership helped the Seahawks compile a respectable 97 record in 1990, but they again missed the playoffs. Dave was lots of fun (along with some gnashing of teeth). He didn't get many opportunities to impress recruiters, so he ended up at Milton College, a tiny NAIA program located southeast of Madison. Moreover, his steady play helped the Seahawks eliminate the reigning Super Bowl champion Raiders in a wild card showdown in the Kingdome. I have actually walked on the campus of MILTON, not Ripon college, as well as Alma College in Michigan when my late father suggested that, just to be sure, should also look at small colleges not just the big land grant State schools. He played through an era of rapid strategic, financial, and administrative transition across the NFL. Krieg would have another weak game, throwing an interception and fumbling in his own end zone in a 34-7 loss to the Bengals. Krieg would suffer a shoulder injury late in what became an up-and-down season, and the Seahawks finished 8-8. Krieg is now a motivational speaker and businessman who sometimes returns to Seattle for "legends of yesteryear"-type events. In recognition of this impressive performance, Krieg's NFL peers named him to his first Pro Bowl. WebDave Krieg was probably the 12th best QB in the NFL in his era behind Montana, Elway, Marino, Kelly, Moon, Esiason, Kosar, OBrien, Simms, Lomax, and Cunningham. Dave Krieg went to Milton College in Wisconsin. The running game sputtered as injuries slowed Curt Warner, and the aging offensive line struggled to open holes for him. By this point, "small hands" had been added to "played for a college that no longer exists" in Krieg's short-form resume, and he's still third (behind Brett Favre and Warren Moon) on the all-time fumble list. WebDavid Michael Krieg is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League. Krieg started his career as a seventh-string quarterback at a level of competition one step up from intramurals. In his 19-year NFL career, Krieg played for the Seahawks (19801991), Kansas City Chiefs (19921993), Detroit Lions (1994), Arizona Cardinals (1995), Chicago Bears (1996), and Tennessee Oilers (19971998). Head coach Jack Patera and offensive coordinator Jerry Rhome liked Krieg, and he latched on in training camp in 1980once again as a seventh-string quarterback, at least according to Krieg's recollections. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. That makes a difference," said Meyer, who had suggested years earlier that a big-league arm doesn't make much difference. Again, his passer rating told the tale: 3 horrible games (below 50), 4 mediocre ones (50s and 60s), 5 good efforts (70s and 80s), and 4 outstanding performances (90s or better). (Chiefs safety Deron Cherry intercepted four of the passes). [28] Although Krieg had set Detroit Lions regular-season records for fewest passes intercepted (3) and highest passer rating (101.7), the team decided to stick with Mitchell and let Krieg become a free agent. Krieg is the quarterback Fitzpatrick wishes he could be. Krieg also became part owner of the af2's Green Bay Blizzard in 2007 along with former Green Bay Packer linebacker Brian Noble. I was dragged in to help out a friend in one of the very firstFantasy Football leagueshe couldn't decide on a QBI said 'no matter what the situation, Dave Krieg always finds a way to shine through' He DID win the Fantasy Champ. At that time, what was right was letting Dave stay in. Or Steve DeBerg. Then he pulled a Benjamin Button and went slowly backwards after that. 4) Bob Smizik was a long-time sports columnist in Pittsburgh either for the morningPittsburgh Post-Gazette or the afternoonPittsburgh Press. You are using an out of date browser. But when Zorn suffered a broken ankle in 1981, Patera surprised everyoneincluding Kriegby naming Krieg the starter. WebIts true that he once led the NFL in fumbles due to his small hands. Hmm, it doesnt appear his hand size matters! Nice to see DVOA back up these intuitions. In the offseason, the Chiefs signed Joe Montana and made him their starting quarterback. The Seahawks went 9-7 but missed the playoffs. Legendary Mind you, thats without an offensive line. ), finishing 8-8. BackCAST 2023: Is Zach Charbonnet Overrated? In 1994, Krieg signed with the Detroit Lions to back up Scott Mitchell. Really liked him a lot except for those small hands. Rhome did not mince words when talking about his two quarterbacks in an AP story which ran on August 3, 1982. pic.twitter.com/wmVSmWf5oO It was our first year of season tickets. In fact, the media gushed over Krieg, and he was well-regarded (as I recall) among national fans. The Seahawks had joined the NFL just four years earlier in 1976. All that makes it even more amazing the Seahawks were able to get a first round pick for him from the Bears! In 1986, Krieg played well initially, leading the Seahawks to a 53 record. And if he's down, he bounces right back. Which just tells you that there were a lot of excellent QBs at that time. "Dave has a lot of vision on the field," Largent said in a Miami Herald feature during the 1983 playoffs. Pickett, of course, need not fear that his smaller-than-usual NFL phalanges will betray him at the next level. [31] Statistically, Krieg's performance was inconsistent: his passer rating ranged from subpar (4 games below 60) to mediocre (2 games in the 60s) to good (3 games in the 80s and 90s) to outstanding (3 games over 100). David Michael Krieg (born October 20, 1958) is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League. This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Heck, Krieg owes most of the last seven years of his career to defense-oriented coaches and their obsession with veteran caretakers. "I figured I had gone too far now, so I just kept going. In reply to Lol. Be sure to comply with laws applicable where you reside. Steve DeBerg should get a unique "Ryan Fitzpatrick Before Ryan Fitzpatrick" entry. But he barely played in Tennessee and retired after the 1988 season. it is difficult to explain to younger fans just how big the Mitchell deal was at the time. This logic certainly has some merit. 1 quarterback," Knox insisted in early September, adding that "Zorn has a better grasp of what we're trying to do offensively.". In Week 16, Krieg was benched and Stouffer got his first start of that season. Our final Legends of DVOA installment looks at the two-decade career of Dave Krieg, a Kried to Largent was a thing for several years. Krieg would have disappeared if Gaddini didn't have a connection in the Seahawks personnel department. The first is that his name really is However, the 10-6 Seahawks failed to qualify for the playoffs. Jets link has been fixed. "We played against the New York Jets and they had the Sack Exchange defense," Krieg told Beckys-Place.com. that season, because of Kreig. In reply to I liked DeBerg, he had by Noahrk. Little (or widely) known fact: He has the fourth [1][9][10][11], Krieg began the strike-shortened 1982 season as the Seahawks' starting quarterback and played respectably until a thumb injury sidelined him for several weeks. WebIn a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. They are always starting for a 6-10 team, and fumbling twice per game. He was impressing coaches and teammates with his ability to fire tight spirals into the wind. DeBerg was actually a pretty decent NFL QB for much of his career, but was always getting replaced by someone who was better or expected to be (and ultimately was) better - Joe Montana, John Elway, Steve Young. I remember when 44 year old Deberg started a game for the 1998 Falcons (one of their 2 losses that season). Garrett Gilbert, Gale's son, made an emergency start for the Cowboys last year. Gannett may earn revenue from sports betting operators for audience referrals to betting services. "He had some big plays and rallied us. Cranky coaches! Like Steve Young, his powers increased after escaping the Hugh Culverhouse Bucs, much like Superman getting away from Krypton's red dwarf star. It was the forerunner toManning-Leaf. It's the link to the first Jets game of the season (Krieg played in the second). As someone who started following the league at near the end of Kreig's prime, I didn't really have a good feel for his career arc. "John Elway is a fellow who can really drill the ball Dave's arm probably isn't as strong but he gets the ball there and he's right on target, and that's the most important thing, isn't it?". Krieg bounced back a bit in 1986, and the Seahawks started the season 5-2. And instead, theres supposed to be a lot of weight placed on whether they can comfortably palm a football with one hand. But the tales of that rifle arm and tight spirals into the wind we read in the last section didn't survive into the era of MTV and personal computers. He suffered a hand injury in Week 10 against the Packers, and Krieg led a rally from a 24-0 deficit. Does anyone else question Geno's leadership and accountability cred? Stouffer, as mentioned, was terrible. This was back when teams would occasionally play teams outside their division twice in a season. Thanks for pointing that out. But Patera did release Sam McCullum, a productive veteran receiver who also happened to be the Seahawks' union rep. Legal actions ensued. I remember Krieg beating out Sam Adkins for the #2 job, then replacing Zorn! The Kansas City Chiefs sacked Krieg 9 times, including an NFL-record 7 sacks by linebacker Derrick Thomas. There are plenty of starting quarterback examples, who also had small hand measurements at the Combine, that we can point to and say this wont matter in determining his future. Hes not a face of the NFL by any means, but almost 200 touchdown passes and three Pro Bowls at age 30 is nothing to sneeze at. His regular season career winloss record is 98-77. How much better he was is a matter of debate: five finishes among the top 5 in DVOA for Romo suggest that they are close. Still, I was surprised to see trips formations, multiple personnel groupings, and lots of early-down passing from Krieg and Knox. With Seattle he was 70-49, Krieg also had six seasons where he lead his team to the playoffs and posted a playoff record of 3-6. Mahomes has played in the AFC Championship Game every year of his starting career and is the leagues arguable best player. Anyway, the Seahawks traded three draft picks, including a 1989 first-rounder, for the rights to Stouffer. Consistently inconsistent. But I guess his tinier hands matter more, somewhere, apparently. This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Dave Krieg. JavaScript is disabled. It's a matter of doing what's right (for the team). We went out for pre-game warm-ups, then came back in and Jerry Rhome said, 'Hey, you know you're starting, don't you? He attended Milton College in his home state of Wisconsin and made the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. He was on the radio just recently. Head coach Mike Holmgren said of Krieg, "I always wanted him to play for me, but he was way too expensive every year. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none Of the top 5 on the chart (the guys who "We don't want him looking over his shoulder to see if every time he makes a mistake we're warming up Dave Krieg," Knox said. It closed in 1982. [35] Although McNair recovered from his injury and could have re-entered the game, the team let Krieg finish. For some combination of reasons, Krieg won the starting job from Zorn to start the 1982 season and endured 14 sacks in a pair of losses, breaking his thumb in the second game. The Seahawks lost 15-3 to the Giants (Stouffer fumbled out of the back of the end zone) and 41-14 to the Broncos. Wore number 17 was traded to the Chiefs and then to the Lions and almost took them to the playoffs after Woodley was hurt. "He's the man we're going with," Turner said of Krieg at the time. Krieg signed as a free agenta real free agent this timewith Buddy Ryan's Arizona Cardinals, another team with a quartergeezer habit. He also had 17 rushing attempts for 20 yards and 1 touchdown. Like Fitzpatrick, Krieg played for so long that his origin story became a broadcast trope, and he often played just well enough to get his next job rather than keep his current one. Kemp relieved Krieg in the fourth quarter and nearly led the Seahawks on a scoring drive in the final 71 seconds. Krieg and the Seahawks had a down year in 1985. [14], Despite a prodigious effort by Mike McCormack to recruit Warren Moon to join the QB ranks in Seattle, Krieg resumed his starting role 1984 after Moon declined Seattle's offer and chose to play for the Houston Oilers instead. All-Pro Steve Largent missed several games because of a fractured elbow.

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