Basicly what the tital says, its the Transfromers Prime Height Chart, its just a rough guess, but it holds most of the TFP and TFPBH cast hight and you could also use this for the TFA and TF-Films Rated: Fiction K - English - Words: 445 - Reviews: 9 - Favs: 18 - Follows: 8 - Published: 5/16/2013 - id: 9297736 Cheetor and Tigatron are shown standing next to real members of their species, and they are both the same size as the animals in question. The depiction of Unicron in Prime is another improvement - he is explicitly said to be the core of the planet Earth, which would be about 3470km. Megatron, however, is a pitifully tiny specimen of a T. rex. Megatron- Walter P38 Pistol. In recent years, the "collector-aimed" mass-retail lines have made attempts to stick to an internally consistent scale (while still adhering to price points), largely based on the characters' robot mode depictions in media. However, with the increasing prevalence of multiple toys of the same character in different size classes, particularly enforced by the live-action film series, it is technically possible to have somewhat more accurate scale combinations. These are a little harder to gauge because neither is completely straightened out. Characters such as Devastator and Menasor are frequently shown as Godzilla-sized. If one takes James Robert's measurements into account (but then, the Lost Light has its own fair share of scaling problems), this would make him and some of the other Titans approximately 15 miles high in robot mode taller than Manhattan Island is long! And, sadly, the most show-accurate toy, Air Attack Optimus Primal, is a ginormous Supreme figure, towering over the other toys. Laserbeak- Cassette tape. The Animated franchise has its share of scale problems when comparing its toyline to the cartoon (not helped by multiple releases of some characters in different sizessee above), with several characters seeming roughly one size class too small, such as the Dinobots being a mix of one Voyager size and two Deluxes, Sentinel Prime looking rather diminutive as a Deluxe, and, most egregiously, Lugnut as a very squat Voyager who's shorter than even some Deluxes (as with Voyager-class Bulkhead, more of his mass went into his width, plus his weapon takes away some from his robot mode). Prime Spark). The newer versions of Astrotrain and Octane (aka "Tankor"), while changing the specifics of their alternate modes, really don't improve on the general size disparity all that much. There is no explanation for any of this. Notably, the GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon mounted to the front end of the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Powerglide's alternate mode) alone is about the same size as a Volkswagen Beetle (Bumblebee).[1]. A single Transformer's size is rarely consistent between artists. It's not perfect but hey, what're you going to do? G1-era media also consistently depicts the members of the Special Teams as being about the same size as each other, even though the toys consistently had the leader be about twice the size of the limbs. Furthermore, only manifestations of him are seen (these vary in size), and his eyeball, which is in comparison to the Transformers about the size of a small town. Many of the wheeled vehicles are close to 1:35 scale, although Deluxe Class Jazz and Classic Camaro Bumblebee are obviously not the same scale, as noted above. It was often shown in full and would be cut for time in some episodes. Transformers Size Comparison ANIMATION 2021 Optimus PRIME - YouTube 0:00 / 2:45 Transformers Size Comparison ANIMATION 2021 Optimus PRIME Rain G. 354K subscribers Join Subscribe 801 82K views. Devastates them right in the mouth. This would repeat itself with the "Human Alliance" toys for Revenge of the Fallen: The cars/robots are all roughly the right size compared to each other (Skids and Mudflap are even smaller, squatter toys and come with sub-Scout-sized motorcycle and robots to make up for it), but their human drivers are all too small (amusingly, Frenzy seems to be about right). Some fans interpret the many otherwise-unexplained scale issues above to all be the result of size changing, but this is debatable. For example, Rumble and Frenzy vary in height relative to Soundwave. The crucial point is that the toy lines were initially unrelated. Beast Wars likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. Notably, Chromedome, if his driver is meant to be about the size of a human, is a rather oversized car, while the issues of Fortress Maximus being way too small for a city are magnified. Transformers: The Headmasters scale charts: Shouki: 5 m Razorclaw: 5.5 m Mindwipe: 5.5 m Highbrow: 5.5 m Springer: 6 m Weirdwolf: 6 m Skullcruncher: 6 m Hardhead: 6 m Cerebros: 6 m Brainstorm: 6 m Ultra Magnus: ~7 m Cyclonus: 7 m Sixshot: 7 m Raiden: ~16 m Predaking: 16 m Dreamwave Generation One continuity: The Nemesis Length: 2.5 miles Furthermore, the Dreamwave miniseries Micromasters suggested that the Micromasters were scaled down to interact more easily with "smaller beings". (NOTE: unfinalized models, scale may not be final), A much larger, black and white version of the the Decepticon scale chart, Autobot scale chart from the film's DVD(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Decepticon scale chart from the film's DVD(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Scale for Devastator and Constructicons(NOTE: uses concept art, scale may not be final), Blackarachnia scale references for season 1, Scale chart from Transformers Animated: How to Draw, Scale chart page published in The AllSpark Almanac II, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee scale within the game, Omega Supreme next to Optimus Prime and Bumblebee within the game, Trypticon and Omega Supreme to scale within the game, Character model size comparison for Bumblebee, Omega Supreme and Trypticon, "Epic height" scale chart from Activision, https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Scale_charts&oldid=1685585. Leader Class, at US$40. In another variation of this, Prime Predaking is a colossal monster in beast mode that even the upgraded Optimus Prime can barely look in the chest, but transforms into a beefy robot a head or two taller than Megatron. Even if a size was decided on, it often didn't remain consistent. (And they were never gonna make a properly screen-accurate-scale Scavenger, though a Commander Class figure was in the works, but was canned, bummer.). The "disguise" aspect of this was later explained by having Landmine and Cloudburst encounter giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet which made them appear to be of a "normal" scale. Comparing this shot with when he picks up Archibald Witwicky's glasses a few minutes later, it seems the glasses have lenses a foot (30cm) in diameter. Artistic license and animation errors are frequent in Transformers media, but the following are examples of intended scale for characters within the franchise. As with Transformers Universe MUX, the text of Transformers Wiki is available under the Creative Commons License. In the ensuing confrontation, Silas is fatally injured, forcing MECH to graft him into Breakdown. the Seekers to choose to get shorter when going into battle. Fan Art. The original Transformers fictions often depict characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Most notably, the additional kibble added to their bodies shows in glaring contrast to already-existing car parts, indicating that their aerial forms are quite undersized. That these toys represent hyper-evolved beings most of the time make it all the more head-scratch-inducing. Devastator's size is particularly confusing. Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion, Portfolio: Jennifer Hoffman - Transformers Prime Rigging, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. One of the more popular play patterns in the line's history is that of the driver figure: a small figure, usually a human or one of the various -Master configurations, who is capable of fitting inside the figure and driving it. However, that presents problems with some characters, such as Sideways (motorcycle) being the same size as Thrust (jet), especially if you assume Mirror is meant to be the size of a human. A rare exception is live-action Blackout, who came with a tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok. I personally think he is much taller than Optimus 2.0. Conversely, the Marvel Comics depict the Micromasters merely as a little smaller than the likes of Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Dreamwave's More than Meets the Eye series of bio comics tried to explain this for characters such as Astrotrain and Broadside by saying they're able to expand themselves to increase cargo space in vehicle mode, though their armor becomes thinner as it is spread out more. For example, Prowl was shown to grow several times his normal size when forming the head of Devastator in Robots In Disguise. Scale in Transformers is screwed up beyond belief. This also presents clear problems with similar figures whose gimmick suggests interaction, such as Headmasters or Mini-Cons. There are still minor scale issues to be found, though. Since the size changing seen in the fiction is not possible for real toys (at least, that's what Takara wants us to think), this human-scaling makes in some cases for inordinately large robot modes. Newcomer Alpha Bravo is also undersized if his windows are anything to go by. A minority also lamented that the expensive animation budgeted the number of character models they could render, and thus led to a relatively small cast and an isolated setting. The following year, the Generation-1-based War for Cybertron Trilogy continued the robot-mode scale trend, with the opening series Siege roughly scaling characters according to the original cartoon's animation models. If he's the size of a real truck, Prime in robot mode should be 810 m (25'30') tall, at best. While they're not shown next to humans in their jet and helicopter modes, their on-screen transformations do not indicate any notable size increase. The Beast Machines' toyline was far worse in size discrepancies with the cartoon. Assuming that Unicron is generously close to the size of our moon, when compared to other stellar bodies he shows up as an all-but-invisible speck. Combiner characters are often depicted as far larger than the sum of their parts. The new scale for the driver figures continued with Dark of the Moon, which introduced Scout-sized robot figures that had one-man vehicle modes in a slightly larger scale, resulting in undersized drivers riding oversized motorcycles. Among other changes, Blast Off's initial release was a significantly smaller jet, Swindle's tiny steering wheel suggests him to be around the same size as Brawl, Long Haul is significantly bigger than his team, and Groove is a much smaller Legends Class figure, while newcomer Rook takes his place as one of Defensor's limbs. After Megatron's revival, Starscream flees after showing he is unable to prove his loyalty to theDecepticon leader. The cartoon, for example, shows Prime, Megatron and Soundwave as about the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars as slightly shorter (though not as much as the toys are), and Minibots as smaller yet. If Cybertron is the size of Earth's moon (and that's generous), and Unicron is about the size of Cybertron, his hands would be about the size of Europe and Galvatron (to the right) would be about the size of Denmark. Multiple toy sizes are generally irrelevant to the fiction, though the Cybertron cartoon featured Starscream inflating to planetary size, presumably in response to the super-large "King Starscream" toy available at the time. Meanwhile, the Autobots have to guard Jack, Miko, and Raf, three kids who've . However, even here, there are problems. Likewise, a whole squad of Decepticons can fit into Astrotrain's shuttle mode easily (including the combined-form Devastator! In the Aligned continuity, the Thirteenth Prime is better known as Optimus Prime, the current leader of the Autobots and protector of the universe. Since when were the kids as small as tires? The cartoon somewhat got around this by depicting the heads of the Headmasters as significantly larger than their human and Nebulan pilots, though this may make Chromedome's issues even worse. After a few months (on and off) going through resource material OLD scale charts from Japan (both G1 and Masterforce/Victory), EVERY EPISODE from G1's More than Meets the Eye to Zone to the Manga of Battlestars this is as exhaustive as it gets! With fighter jet alternate modes, the Seekers should be among the largest everyday Transformers and would tower over their Autobot adversaries; instead, the animation depicts characters such as Thundercracker and Wheeljack as about the same height. Prime Master Class at US$6.99 Legends Class, at US$9.99 Deluxe Class, at US . Fan Art. Where would we keep it? Parents Need to Know. He's drawn small because he's a human-friendly character, and a junior member of the Autobots. Transformers: Primehas received widespread acclaim, even from outside of the Transformers fandom. Really teeny passengers (notable exceptions are Grindor (in his original body), Sureshock, and High Wire, who become small one-man conveyances). This could all be totally wrong and I still have no idea how tall characters like Brainstorm and Rodimus are EDIT: Bulkhead is slightly shorter than Breakdown. Other toys with comparable alternate modes that are slightly out of scale with each other are Generation 1 Sunstreaker and Sideswipe (mentioned above), who have the same basic alternate mode (with a few differences), and Universe Legends Class Autobot Jazz and Rodimus. Someone took these comparison charts, and took a scan with Silas standing next to Starscream to get his height, and then calculated all the rest. These Titans often have "small" robots forming vital components. In fact, Animated is one of those toylines where you're not quite sure who you're supposed to base correct scale on. After destroying Darkmount, the status quo is restored, with the Autobots based at aUnit:Efacility, while the Decepticons retreat to orbit Earth in theNemesisonce more. Buzzsaw-Cassette tape. Master Blaster Without any height booster, Blackarachnia can interface well with these controls. Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Jason Park, background design for "Orion Pax, Part 3". Likewise, the Beast Era Maximals and Predacons possess roughly human-size bodies; yet when portrayed as vehicles on Cybertron ("Dawn of Future's Past", the Vehicons in Beast Machines), they feature seats and cockpits that, at their size, should be basically useless. Megatron in The Last Knight is particularly confusing; while official sources state that there is only a two-foot height difference between Megatron and Optimus Prime, Megatron seems to tower over Prime in the shot where he steals Quintessa's staff, yet is almost exactly the same size as Optimus throughout the rest of the film. Then again, the vehicles pose even more problems: Prowl, who still sports car kibble, rides a motorcycle, Wheeljack (who used to transform into a car himself) drives a sports car, and Optimus Prime steers a massive 18-wheeler truck, despite his own chest still being the front end of a truck cab. However, thanks to the scaling up of the arthropod characters, it is relatively safe to assume that the Transformers generally scanned only animal forms and then rescaled them to fit their own size - additionally, they were not so much attempting to disguise themselves, as to protect themselves from an excess of Energon. The Combiner Wars releases of the classic crews made varying efforts to avoid this. Sadly, the scale for this line doesn't translate as well for vehicle modes even within a single price point, plus Voyager-and-up toys of larger characters still have vehicle modes far too small compared to the cars. Prime Arcee is about 15 feet tall if I recall correctly. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.deviantart.com/kaijuattack877/art/Transformers-Evolution-Megatron-Size-Chart-742007022?comments_view=1. The current holder of the Matrix of Leadership . To start with, Cybertron was shown throughout Generation 1 with buildings visible from space. Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. While the two initially have their own customized muscle car alt-modes with no scaling issues, inconsistencies begin to appear as soon as they scan secondary airborne vehicle modes. Blaster becomes a human-scale radio; Megatron shrinks into a handgun scaled for either Transformer or human hands, depending on the situation. He devastates things. Some Transformers are smaller than solid blocks of the mass contained in their alt-modes: Unicron would have to be about as thick as the Earth's crust while in planetary form, and Optimus Prime would probably be blown away by a stiff breeze in his larger incarnations. This is a height chart of the Prime characters with my own OC added and a pair of non-canon characters, that are real in the overall continuity. Super-God Masterforce featured Pretenders who did not have outer shells but rather an ill-defined holistic transformation which explicitly involved size changing. Other scale problems come from characters who transform into the same (or similar) alternate modes, but whose toys are different sizes. Here is the height chart for the leaders in "TRANSFORMERS: DIVISION". At the time of Bumblebee, scaling concerns in relation between robot and vehicle modes were seemingly absent, at least in regards to airborne vehicles. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! So don't expect this one to go away any time soon. 1.2k. Some of the citybot toys have visible windows, which are too large for a city, suggesting instead a medium-sized building. It may just be that Titans vary in size like many other Transformers. Even worse, Hasbro Pulse refers to a figure's height measurements as "figure scale". Transformers, the toyline based on the 2007 live-action movie, retains many size classes from before: Legends Class, at US$4. When entering the Ark, the Beast Warriors are quite small compared to the dormant Generation 1 characters, especially Optimus Primebut just how much bigger varies quite a bit from scene to scene and episode to episode. Transformers Legends even acknowledges this by having Broadside becoming a gigantic Headmaster large enough to fight level with Grand Scourge, and piloting a larger Transtector who seems to be on a similar scale to most versions of Metroplex. Even Omega Supreme, who is supposed to be huge, would have to have a greatly expanded scale for his rocket ship component to accommodate passengers as shown on the cartoon. Among the Constructicons, Long Haul is designed to look like a gigantic "earth-mover" mining truck. Predacons Rising concluded the show on October 4, 2013 and a follow up TV series called Transformers: Robots in Disguise aired on Cartoon Network in the United States on March 14, 2015. The Thirteenth Prime. The cartoon, for example, shows Optimus, Megatron and Soundwave as about the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars as slightly shorter (though not as much as the toys are), and Minibots as smaller yet. The Autobots and Decepticons' struggle becomes a competition for Cybertronian artifacts strewn across the planet, which turn out to have been placed there byAlpha Trion, who foresaw the Autobots coming to Earth. Parents need to know that violence is the main concern in this latest addition to the Transformers franchise, which goes by the name Transformers Prime and Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters.Clashes between the Decepticons and the Autobots are explosive and include . hide. Autobots: Sometimes, they are even out of scale in their own team; Bruticus's torso is an anti-aircraft truck, while one of his limbs is a Space Shuttle and another is a two-person offroad vehicle. For example, Movie Jazz's Pontiac Solstice alternate mode is a tiny car, and any size class that includes both him and Bumblebee (a Chevrolet Camaro) will result in scale problems between the toys. After the Decepticons kidnapRatchetto help in their plan, the Autobots assault theNemesisand capture the ship, killing Megatron before he can use the Omega Lock to cyberform Earth. The list of authors can be seen in the page history. Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise), Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Unicron: Jupiter-sized (so approximately 140,000km in diameter). Scout Class, at US$8. Although this was intended to show that the planet was technological in nature, it makes little sense, as the structures would have to be the size of small nations to be visible. Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Jose Lopez, Character Design, Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Yasuhiro Motoda, Character Animator. Ultimately, Megatron manipulates the Autobots into destroying the project when he discoversPredakingis intelligent, and therefore a potential power rival. This concept is lampshaded in the credits of War for Cybertron, where Bumblebee pulls up, and the entire Autobot cast of the game step out of his passenger door, clown car style. He preferred instead to communicate with normal Transformers by possessing Sideways. Main article: List of Transformers: Prime Episodes. Likewise, Metroplex's internal workings are portrayed as much smaller than they'd realistically have to be. Although the Beast Warriors are consistent day-to-day in their relative size to each other (a consistency made more easy to achieve thanks to CGI used to animate), their scale in relation to their real-world animal equivalents is more complex. The toy line, on the other hand, mostly ignores those additional components, resulting in massive scale discrepancies (see above) - Long Haul, who forms Devastator's right leg, is a massive Caterpillar 773B mining dump truck, which should make him considerably larger than Rampage, a Caterpillar D9L bulldozer who forms the left leg. Scale when it comes to planets is so fraught it's painful. Likewise Dinobot is considerably larger than a real Velociraptor. That said, the Stunticon molds don't scale well with anyone else bar Groove, and Silverbolt remains tiny; seemingly the only character in-scale with his mold is maybe Sky Lynx. This is a visual cheat so the glasses are visible to the audience, and other visual cheats to make the robots seem shorter or taller were used in the movies. You may wish to create or login to an account in order to have full editing access to this wiki. The Generation 1 Marvel comic is notorious for changing the relative sizes of various characters. Shockwave was a member of the scientist caste in the industrial city of Kaon.In a reversal of the usual order, he was swayed by the ambitions of the former mining caste member turned gladiator Megatron.Serving as Megatron's "pet mad scientist" and second-in-command, he saw to the fighter's armament during his rise to prominence, all the while fantasizing on the prospect of mass . Even if one character's a twenty-metre fighter jet and the other's a five-metre pickup truck. Between the Great War and the Beast Era, the majority of the Cybertronian race considerably downgraded in size at the Great Upgrade. Instead, he turns his attentions to rebuilding the Omega Lock. Optimus Primeunleashes theMatrix of Leadership, but at the cost of losing his memory, thereby allowing Megatron to manipulate him into joining the Decepticons' ranks.

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